What Does iiNet’s BoB1, BoB Lite, BoB2 and Wireless Bridge Actually Do, And Why Would You Want One?
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One of the most common questions I have been getting from readers after writing my BoB2 review is “What is BoB2? Why do I need a BoB2? What does BoB2 do?” Being IT Savvy, I know what it does, but I was amazed that many people don’t actually know what it is. I think iiNet’s marketing department needs to answer this question in their future promotions. So let’s look at what these devices are and how they will help you.
So what actually is BoB2?
Basically, BoB2 is a modem, router and phone (VOIP) system all in one shiny (not so minty) device – unless iiNet gives you a packet of Minties. If you don’t know what these terms are, a modem is the device that you plug into your phone line and into your computer to be able to access the internet.
With most homes now having multiple computers and internet-enabled devices such as TV’s, you tend to want to share your internet connection to these devices. To allow all these devices to share one internet connection, you use a (wireless) router to connect to your modem. This enables multiple computers to be connected to each other to share files and printers and to access the internet all at the same time. VOIP stands for Voice Over Internet Protocol (IP) which allows you to call other phones (usually at a cheaper cost) using your internet connection, rather than a PSTN line (Public Switched Telephone Network) – your normal telephone line. VOIP sends your data using packets, while your normal telephone uses circuit switching.
A typical network setup connecting multiple computers to the internet using a modem and router (excludes phone that would be connected between the modem and the internet)
What BoB2 allows you do to is to have all these things (the Modem, Router and phone system) all in one device.
A typical network setup with iiNet’s BoB2 Modem/Router all in one
So, do I need a BoB2?
This really depends on your current setup, what you already have, what you want in the future, and who your current ISP is; so I can’t tell you if you should get one or not. (If you tell me those three points in the comments below, I can advise you).
Since BoB2 isn’t locked with iiNet, you can use it with all ISP’s and VOIP providers. If you currently got old hardware and you think it is time to update, you don’t want something too complicated, and you want an answering machine; then yeah, BoB2 would be great. If you have just purchased a brand new router and/or modem, than why waste your money on a new device…
If you want to save money making VOIP calls instead of using your PSTN line and (usually) paying Telstra large amounts of money, and your router/modem doesn’t support VOIP, then yes, getting BoB2 will help. For cheap standalone VOIP plans, I recommend MyNetFone or iiNet if you decide you want to get Naked DSL and sacrifice your landline, or pay extra and move your broadband service to iiNet and get NetPhone1)
So what actually is BoB Lite?
BoB Lite is a slimmed down version of BoB2 – actually pretty much the same but doesn’t include the DECT Phone and Answering Machine. I will be posting a review up of BoB Lite soon.
So, do I need a BoB Lite?
My response is the same as BoB2 – although you don’t get the cordless phones and answering machine. If you need a new router/modem with a bonus ability to plug a phone into (or another cordless phone system), then yeah, get a BoB Lite. The good thing as well with BoB Lite, you can also use – you can use VOIP as well as well as your traditional landline.
BoB Lite will be most useful if you are with another ISP or need or would like a new router/modem at an affordable price. BoB Lite is good for as a simple modem/router device.
What about BoB1?
BoB1 was iiNet’s first modem/router built by Belkin and not iiNet like the BoB2, BoB Lite and Wireless Bridges are. You can think of BoB1 as a mix between the BoB2 and BoB Lite. For more information about the BoB1, you can read my post: “Review of iiNet’s BoB1 Modem/Router“. Also note, that you can no longer buy BoB1 from iiNet.
So what actually is a Wireless Bridge?
I think iiNet’s Wireless PDF will help explain it a bit better:
If you are still not sure, let me explain a problem many people have and how the Wireless Bridge will help.
Let’s say purchased one of those brand new, fancy, internet ready Smart TV’s (or you have an Xbox and you want to connect it to the internet. So how do you plug your TV or Xbox into your router (or a BoB Lite / BoB2) when your TV/Xbox isn’t wireless and your modem/router isn’t near your TV because you don’t have another phone socket to plug into. Your options are:
- Run a cable along the floor or around the walls or under carpet which will be untidy or a safety hazard
- Spend money to get a network cable professionally installed in your house which is very expensive
- Buy one of those power point network cable thingymabobs and use your power cabling as your network cable which may be suitable
- Somehow send a Wireless Single to a device near your TV and plug your TV/xBox into it
Point 4 is what the Wireless Bridge does. It sends a wireless signal from your modem/router to your device that’s closer to your TV to connect to it. These means, no clutter and no high installation costs. From my initial testing from download off the internet, I got the exact same speeds as I would using the Wireless Bridge then having a cable connected to my computer. Therefore it’s a great Ethernet cable replacement.
Are you clear now?
I hope this post has answered your questions about what is a BoB2, BoB Lite, and a Wireless Bridge. If you are still not sure, or have a question about one of these, let me know in the comments.
Further Reading: Make sure you check out my other iiNet reviews
- Review of the original BoB modem/router
- Review of BoB2
- What is a BoB1, BoB2, BoB Lite and Wireless Bridge? (This article)
- Review of BoB Lite (coming soon)
- A comparison of BoB1, BoB Lite and BoB2 (coming soon)
- BoB2, BoB Lite, and Wireless Bridge giveaway (Tournament updates here, play your hand now)
Reckon you could do an explanation on what a PVR is aka Fetch?
Hi,
PVR stands for personal video recorder. It basically allows you to record TV shows, entire series of shows, and also rewind live TV and it gets all stored on a hard drive.
It’s similar to taping shows with a video tape, although a PVR will record automatically using the EPG – Electronic Program Guide.
Fetch TV supplied by iiNet is similar to Foxtel or Austar – pay TV. Fetch TV acts as a PVR as you can also pause, rewind, and record live TV as well as stream movies on demand – thus the requirement of having it connected to the internet –> the the reason for the Wireless Bridge
An iinet salesperson told me that I only need one iinet PVR for two TV’s provided I have two Wireless Bridges. This doesn’t sound right to me. Is it correct? If I need two boxes, do I have to buy a second iinet PVR or can I just get a cheap one and still get all of the iinet content available on Fetch TV2?
Hi Justin,
I don’t have Fetch TV, so I won’t be able to comment.
But basically, all the Wireless Bridge does it replace the Ethernet cable that would go from your router to your TV (if you would plug your Fetch TV box into your modem).
Fetch TV, does have three TV tuners, so you can watch TV while record two shows, but looking at the specification, there are multiple output methods, but I don’t believe you can have your composite output, output something different to your HDMI output.
To connect two TV’s to watch different FetchTV channels at the same time, you would need two Fetch TV boxes. If you want two TV’s to display the same FetchTV output, then it may or may not work with one FetchTV box.
As with buying another cheap PVR, I don’t think it would work with iiNet FetchTV to watch stations – I think it would have to be another FetchTV box.
I hope I answered your question, if not, reply back and I will answer again.
Hello Jack,
I’m having major difficulties obtaining assistance in getting two PCs networked via BobLite, & trust that you can guide me through to an eventual success.
I have had several lengthy helpdesk assistance calls to iinet, the last one the iinet person spent some time checking through settings etc & re-setting up the internet connections, which is not my problem. I just happened to ‘upset things’.
Both my new laptop (wireless) & existing desktop (ethernet cable) run Win 7 Pro 64, & have no problems going online via BobLite.
However, neither PC can see the other, so I am not able to get either to ‘join’ a homegroup/workgroup/whatever; so as to share files etc.
A direct ethernet cable does however enable networking no problems.
Are you able please to assist in getting to the bottom of my problem?.
Any advice/assistance most gratefully welcomed. 🙂
kind regards,
Noel B.
Hi Noel,
Sorry for the late reply. It’s not a iiNet or BoB Lite issue – the problem is your network settings on each of your computers.
I wrote this FAQ just for you, so check it out: [url]http://www.jackcola.org/faq?catid=2&faqid=35[/url]
Let me know if you need any more assistance.
Regards,
Jack
[quote]Hi Noel,
Sorry for the late reply. It’s not a iiNet or BoB Lite issue – the problem is your network settings on each of your computers.
I wrote this FAQ just for you, so check it out: [url]http://www.jackcola.org/faq?catid=2&faqid=35[/url]
Let me know if you need any more assistance.
Regards,
Jack[/quote]
Hi Jack,
Thanks for your help with this. Over the next couple of days I’ll work through your FAQ & get back to you with my findings. 😀
No worries – let me know how it goes.
Nice work…. Must say Boblite was a breeze, but BoB2
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I am soooo very unhappy with BoB2 – why did I buy it?!?!?!
I have been with iiNet 16 years and always loved their reliability and service so I trusted that when they said BoB2 was a great product it would be. BIGGGGG mistake! HUGE!
BoB2 has made me miserable… first of all, trying to talk to BoB modem via my laptop (Powerbook Intell 2.2GHz Mac running 10.6.8) is a nightmare using either cable or wireless as all I get is a blank screen after logging in…unless go find someone who’ll lend me a PC (Support’s suggested fix number 1)…If I log through Diagnostics or the Log and work backwards, sometimes I can actually see the Wizard and set up screens… but it’s hit & miss…. and I had to find this workaround myself as the Support folk don’t know how to fix it and (Support suggested fix number 2) just send a new BoB each time! Stupidity on a stick! They have known about this problem now for at least a month but no fix yet.
Main reason for my purchase was the answering machine function as I use it for my home office… but to call the thing on BoB2 an answering machine is like calling a model T Ford a high performance race car!
The message cannot be altered, getting the touch screen functions to actually respond to touch is a frustrating game of trial and error EVERY, and the quality of the playback is so shitty as to be indecipherable at times…. not to mention when it can be heard it is so very unpleasant to the ears that an ancient transistor radio just off station sounds better…. and then to add insult to injury, there’s no way to access the messages remotely without activating and paying a monthly fee for a remote access add on to the phone line! What a joke! I have tried to work out a bypass to the crappy answering machine – bought a $60 answering machine from Dick Smith that has better functionality and playback quality – but it doesn’t seem to pick up calls to the VOIP number (which is of course the office number)… so I am looking for an alternative and planning to send BoB2 back to iiNet.
Any suggestions on whether or how this is possible or alternatives to Bob2?
Regards
Gail
Hi Gail, I can hear your frustrations.
First of, BoB2 and BoB Lite are pretty much identical in how they work – the only differences is are the answering machines and a few other similar differences which I have covered in previous posts.
I am not sure why you can’t connect to BoB2 on your laptop. As soon as your computer gets an IP from BoB2, it should work as normal. Maybe you have a faulty device? But I am not sure why it’s a hit an a miss for you.
I 100% agree with you on the answering machine – it can be pretty bad. If you have a VOIP account, you can get voice mails go straight to your inbox which works extremely well – and you can keep a copy of it too. But this doesn’t work if you have a PSTN line (traditional landline).
The touch screen is a bit hard, as you have to guess where the buttons are first to active the display, then press the correct button you want. If you have VOIP and have setup voicemail on Toolbox, you can access your messages remotely by dialing a phone number. See [url]https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Voicemail_for_Netphone#toc_2[/url].
So with the VOIP number, sending missed messages to your email might be a better alternative then using BOB2’s answering machine.
Let me know how you go, or respond if you have any further questions I can help you with.
Thanks Jack, will definitely try the VOIP message to email option… have set up voicemail and that at least works (same dreadful sound quality issue with the recorded message and still cannot record your own answering message…grrrrr…
Have today sent back a second (replacement) BoB2 that was supposed to work better but had all the same problems…
After yet another conversation with support I’ve been told that another unit would be sent to me and will have the communication with laptop fault resolved…
I remain unconvinced since
1) both the BoBlite and the BoB2 had the same fault (ie login to the modem from the Mac Powerbook and all you get is a blank page – no difference whether using Safari or Firefox – ditto even with Explorer via Parallels and you have to work around by logging in again through Diagnostics or Log)… and
2) because when I complained about the sound quality on the ‘answering machine’ I was told I must have a faulty unit… well the replacement I sent back today had the same lousy quality
Fingers crossed though… after 16years with iiNet I want to believe they can do better than this but…..
Cheers
Hi Gail,
I remember hearing ages ago that someone kept having issues with BOB2 – it turned out to be a configuration at the exchange. I can’t remember what the issue was, or what the fix was, but after iiNet did something, all worked. But I doubt this would fix your problem.
And yes, I don’t think the sound quality would improve at all. It used to send my puppy nuts when it heard the loud beep.
So hopefully this BoB2 works – otherwise it may in fact be your software. Make sure you’re up-to-date with the latest versions.
Good luck with it.
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I have just bought a new Bob lite router and it is set and working well.Also VOIP. I can access the net through it from my desktop PC as well as a work provided laptop. I have a HP wired 4100 series printer (about 5 years old) and I am keen to have this accessable wirelessly from the laptop, even when the desktop pc is off.. Is there proviosion to connect this somehow into the router.
Hi Russell,
As far as I am aware, BoB Lite does not have an inbuilt print server, so the only alternative if you have a Wired printer is to connect it to a another computer, share the printer over your network. If the desktop pc is off, then you would have to turn it on.
The only way around this is to purchase a router which has an inbuilt print server or a device like this [url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000J3ZZ4Y[/url] which you can then plug into your laptop, OR if your printer has an RJ-45 LAN connection (not a USB connection)
Digital Inspiration has a good article you may wish to read up on [url]http://www.labnol.org/gadgets/make-wired-printer-wireless/12639/[/url]
I hope this helps.
i have a bob2 at home as a main router, and 3 other ppl are using it as well. But the problem that i have is they sometimes take too much bandwidth that i cant even open google page or super lag during game, it happens a lots since later after noon is the most crowed time and i think asking them not to use too much is not a wise or effective decision. Since i only gaming and browsing which shouldnt took too much bandwidth but i am the one who is in the pain :(.
and i heard a method to solve this is “Bridge”. i have a router ( not a modem), and what should i do now?
i can access bob2 and my router which is linksys. what is the step that next?.
greatful for anyone give me some advise
Hi Alan, I too have this very own problem, and I am yet to find a fix. iiNet support sort of didn’t reply. In my situation, when I download a large file, from a fast server, such as Microsoft, my BoB2 modem resets. You can tell as the uptime of the router resets back to zero. During the download (and in some cases, uploads), I too face situations where I can’t even browse the web.
Possible things you can try:
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Change your connection speed in iiNet toolbox
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Ensure you are using the latest BoB2 firmware, See [url=”https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/BoB2_Firmware_Upgrade”]Upgrading Firmware for BoB2[/url]
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Contact iiNet support, and see if they have a solution (I never got a response for my problem)
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Let me know how things go? Sorry, if I wasn’t much help.
Hi, I am trying to verify my wireless printer through the iinet bob lite modem/router.
I can’t detect my printer on my computer, and the instructions tell me to go to the router settings and configure it there. How do I do this?
Thanks
You would need to connect to the WiFi access point on the printer, and enter the security key. It will then connect, and you may need to install software on your computer to use it.
hi just wondering i have been trying to figure this out but no luck,
I have a bob two which is at the front of the house and i cant connect to the wireless in my room which is on the other side of the house. I called up and asked about the Wireless Bridge because i have fetch but since bob was too far away never used it so wanted to get some use out of it, i asked the girl if the wireless bridge also works as a wireless extender and she said yes. so got one and the fetch works fine but i am still not getting any signal for my laptop or my phone so it didnt really work as an extender. do i have to change something to make it work as an extender or? p
Hello Mimi,
You might want to contact iiNet about the setup instructions on doing this. I believe it’s possible (maybe with the new WB), but I haven’t configured mine this way because I bricked mine while playing with the setting previously, and needed iiNet to send out another pair. Opps.
The basic design for the Wireless Bridge is to connect one end to your router, the other two another LAN device – essentially it replaces a cable.